The bible and LGBTQ – Part 2

As you saw in part 1, the MAJOR passages in the bible that condemn homosexuality have been refuted, and long since been discarded as a misinterpretation, and a misrepresentation of the ACTUAL intent of the passages.  This blog (part 2) will discuss the passages that supposedly “touch” on homosexuality in some minor way.  If you missed part 1, here’s a link to it: https://boggsism.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/the-bible-and-lgbtq

PLEASE read part 1 before you read part 2!

The passages in question are:
Genesis 2:18-25; Proverbs 18:22; Romans 6:13; Mark 7:21; 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5; Romans 13:13; Corinthians 6:13; 1 Corinthians 6:18-19; Galatians 5:19-21; Colossians 3:5; Revelation 21:8; Revelation 22:15;

The Genesis passage is the one where god looks at man and says “it’s not good for man to be alone.”  First off, god acknowledges that he created man to be a social creature.  It’s against the nature of man to be alone.  This is for several reasons.  First, man is a social creature that thrives on social interactions. Second, man needs an outlet for his sexual urges.  God created two heterosexuals here for the purpose of procreation.  Of course, this was after he paraded all the animals in front of Adam to see what Adam liked better.  Adam apparently had no interest in bestiality; thus, god had to create another human.  If god wanted man to continue past Adam, he had to create Eve, and not Steve.  This has no weight as to what god thinks about homosexuality, nor can we infer that this is the ONLY way god designed humans to engage in monogamous relationships.  In fact, these had to have been other humans in existence, otherwise… who did Cain go off and marry after killing Abel?  AND, why did god have to put a mark of protection on Cain in order to prevent other people from harming Cain?  The bible is very clear that he went off, found a town, married, and had a family.  So… If there were other people in existence in addition to Adam and Eve, then we can NOT infer anything about the sexual nature for which god created man.  Therefore, we must discard this as a homosexuality passage.  What we CAN infer from this passage, is that it’s not good for man to be alone and celibate.  So if a man is born that is not in any way attracted to females, god wants that man to find a sexual partner as his outlet.  Thus, it’s good for homosexuals to find a suitable partner for themselves.

Proverbs states that “He who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the Lord.”  Anytime I’m confronted with a single verse, or short passage, I’m always curious… “What is going on around it?”  That IS really the only way to read anything.  Otherwise, one can take ANYTHING out of context.  I’ve proved this once before with a phrase taken out of context written by C.S. Lewis.  Taken out of context, it actually sounded contrary to any other philosophical work he had done.  But when read in context, he was merely giving the other side of the argument.  This verse happens amid a lot of short “one-liner” proverbs.  It’s just a compilation of short wise sayings.  “A man with one chopstick goes hungry” or “War does not determine who is right; war determines who is left” things like that.  NONE of the other one-liners deal with marriage, sex, sexuality, or anything of that nature.  THIS one-liner doesn’t even speak to any sex or sexuality related topic!  The general consensus among scholars is that the verse isn’t complete.  In fact there are many manuscripts that added good to wife.  “He who finds a GOOD wife” thus speaking to the rarity of a wife of noble character, and this keeps with the later proverbs 31.  The Septuagint actually adds an entire other one-liner to this chapter “He who casts out a good wife, casts away that which is good: but he that keepeth an adulteress is foolish and ungodly.”  Others argue that the author may have been thinking about marriage in its ideal aspect I.E. the fairytale ending of – “you get married and live happily ever after.”  As we all know… this is complete and total bullshit!  No one is “happily-ever-after” in marriage.  Marriage comes with a whole slew of problems that make the majority of people miserable.  The closest that marriages come to “happily-ever-after” is that women are emotionally driven, and that can cloud their judgment on the true nature of their marriage.  Men are a lot more reserved about their feelings and usually don’t speak their mind on how miserable they really are.  This is possibly one reason for a higher divorce rate these days, and why women are caught off guard a LOT when the man suggests it, or is even caught with a mistress.  A lot of time, women are shocked when they find out their husband is cheating.  “I had no idea!  I thought everything was fine.  Our relationship had been better than ever!”  Yeah… maybe in your world!  Keep a man celibate long enough, or keep a man beat down and out of his manliness long enough, and he’s going to lash out in SOME way!  No matter what the verse’s implication is for marriage, heterosexual relationships, etc, etc… make no mistake, the verse says NOTHING against homosexuality.  And to take this one insignificant verse and say “see husband and wife… that’s how it was designed” is absolutely asinine!

For anyone to use Romans 6:13 as a passage against homosexuality is reaching pretty far indeed.  This verse says nothing about homosexuality.  In fact, it says nothing about sexual anything at all.  It simply says “don’t offer your body to sin.  Offer it as an instrument to god.”  Unfortunately, this verse can be read and used as a “catch-all” verse.  This verse is sooo ambiguous that it can, indeed, be used to back up ANYONE’S theology that they have made up about ANYTHING… thus “christians” use it to back up bigotry!  See homosexuality is a sin.  Romans 6:13 says don’t offer your body to sin.  Well… I’ve already proved without a shadow of doubt in part 1 that the bible does not establish homosexuality as a sin… thus, this verse doesn’t fit in the topic of homosexuality!

Mark 7:21, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5, Romans 13:13, Corinthians 6:13, 1 Corinthians 6:18-19, Galatians 5:19-21, Colossians 3:5, Revelation 21:8, and Revelation 22:15 ALL speak toward “sexual immorality.”  I already laid out what “sexual immorality” meant to Paul, the disciples, Jesus, and pretty much everyone in that era in part 1.  “Sexual immorality” really was more rampant and generally accepted waaay more than it is today!  In fact to the greeks, it was a part of worship for some of their gods.  Worship of some greek gods were nothing more than big drunken orgy parties.  (This actually sounds a LOT more fun than going to church to sing hymns and listen to some old guy make you feel bad about yourself and hate others!!!)  Other areas of the world regularly celebrated debauchery like rape, gang rapes, molesting children, orgies of all kinds, incest, necrophilia, bestiality, and prostitution.  All of “sexual immorality” that was practiced by some cultures and cities, and were condemned by Jesus and his followers usually harmed an individual in some way…  and Guess what, they still do harm others, and all of those acts can get your ass thrown in jail today!  A monogamous homosexual relationship doesn’t hurt anyone.  The funny part is that Paul actually states that these “sexual immoralities” are a part of our human nature, and are natural to us.  So these heinous things are natural, but same-sex attraction is unnatural?  I’m raising the bullshit flag on that one.  Especially since all around us in nature there are signs that homosexuality is common place in nature.  One of Paul’s biggest stances was against temple prostitution.  He had a BIG problem with this.  So most of the time when Paul uses the term “sexual immorality” he is usually referring to temple prostitution, NOT homosexuality!

See, NOTHING ever included homosexuality in that list of “sexual immoralities.”  In fact, it wasn’t until about 700 CE, after Paul, and all of the other main disciples had looong since died off, that the “christians” decided that homosexuality was the primary sin of Sodom, and coined the term “sodomia” our root for modern day “sodomy.”  This was a couple hundred years after the Roman emperor Justinian I added homosexuality to the list of sexual immorality, and declared that Sodom’s sin was specifically same-sex sins and desire for them.  He also stated that “famines, earthquakes, and pestilences were due to homosexual behaviors.  “Christians” took Justinian’s bogus and bigoted idea and built a theology around it that the founders of “christianity” never intended to convey!

What I find the MOST interesting, is the passage of Mark that people want to use as if it is a passage against homosexual relationships!  HAHA… This is a PERFECT example of “christians” cherry picking, and then using one verse GROSSLY out of context to back up their bigotry!
Mark 7:21 stops shortly after listing sexual immorality as an evil thought that begins in the heart.  OK, again, the above paragraphs answer the “sexual immorality” part of this passage, but the part that I find interesting is that it’s one verse!  AGAIN… my natural thought is ALWAYS, “What else is going on around the verse?”  So, if one was to read before and after the verse… you know, how it was MEANT to be read, you don’t get anything about homosexual acts at all!

Basically the Pharisees, once again, come up to Jesus and his disciples and chastise them all for not living according to the TRADITION of the elders, and eating food with defiled hands.  As we all know, the Pharisees had NOTHING but contempt for Jesus and his followers, and didn’t ever address things in a nice way with them.  Jesus got pissed here (like he always does when the Pharisees come around) and chastised them in harsh language (like usual).  Jesus called them hypocrites, and quoted Isaiah stating that “These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.  They worship me in vain;  their teachings are merely human rules.”  He then tells them that they have let go of the commands of god and are holding on to human TRADITIONS.  Then he turns to the crowd and says that nothing that enters a body makes them unclean.  But it is a person’s heart that makes them unclean.

You see, Jesus was constantly condemning the Pharisees because their hearts were not in the right place.  Jesus’ message was ALWAYS about love and acceptance of all people no matter what.  Well… love and acceptance for all but the Pharisees.  HAHA  These individuals he harshly condemned and hated.  He even stated that they would not see the kingdom of heaven.  I constantly point out that most “christians” are nothing more than the 21st century Pharisees.  Because frankly they are!  (https://boggsism.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/the-21st-century-pharisees-and-sadducees)

That’s my PART 2 to these verses… Stay tuned for PART 3 – which is my wrap-up, thoughts and comments based on these verses and the controversy that surrounds them.  And as always the exciting conclusion of what exactly is wrong with our world!

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