This comment is going to be a mess

…fuck…

well here it goes…

So to prove that I am truly open-minded, I feel the need to give the ENTIRE train of thought that lead to this reply… I wasn’t going to include my entire thought process, but just my concession… but I thought better of that, and felt it necessary to show people how my mind works, and to show people that I’m not just a narcissistic, arrogant, fuckwad! Don’t get me wrong… I am those things, but I can also have my mind altered by others AS LONG AS THE LOGIC IS INDUBIOUS:

First my mind went to the defense of my words:
ok, well my reply to that sentiment would be that ALL “christians” are, indeed, bigoted and hateful. If you don’t believe in this bigoted manner, I would challenge the idea that you are a “christian” at all… but that you are something other than, or more than “christian.”

–> Then (as always) I started tearing apart my own logic bit by bit… calling into question statements I have made in the past… including some in this VERY post! If I just made the argument that if you aren’t a bigot, then you’re something other than “christian” This would lead me into the logical fallacy of a dubious loop of logic resulting in coming back to the old “no true Scotsman” argument which I delivered in this very post.

–> Excerpt from my post
“Now, here is the part where people will say “not everyone who says they are ‘christian’ are really ‘christian!’” or “They don’t represent all Christians!”

Um… I hate to break it to you… but yeah… they kinda are, and kinda do! You see if you can sit there and say “they aren’t a ‘real christian’” just because someone disagrees with you, then there are NO “real christians” in the entire world! It doesn’t work that way… You aren’t the judge of the label “christian!” Thus, if someone claims the label, they have it!”

Well Fuck me sideways and call me twitchy… Scotty Mo is right! For me to argue the contrary would be illogical based on my own ascertains, beliefs, and philosophical musings

Touché sir!

OK… so if we were to stick with my logic that anyone that claims the label “christian” is, indeed, a “christian,” then you are right… not ALL “christians” are bigots. I stand corrected, and I was out of line in exaggerating the point to be all inclusive. But as far as I can tell… the vast majority, or at least the loudest majority of “christians” are bigots. And our world is becoming FAR too small for bigots to still be walking among us!

You are correct, merely having a different viewpoint does NOT make one a bigot or hate monger… if that is what you got from my post, you need to read all three parts again. And maybe the rest of my posts, since they all pretty much build off of one another. I’m not attacking people who hold a different belief. I’m attacking WHY they believe those beliefs. If those beliefs are held in error, and that error causes you to be a hateful bigot, then your beliefs direly need to be addressed. People love to automatically jump to the whole erroneous argument of “people can have different opinions.” Well this is erroneous, and is a logical fallacy because it’s twisting and misrepresenting the point of the message. Again… the POINT of the message is attacking the WHYS behind the beliefs. Because if the WHYS are LIES, then why continue to hold said belief?!?

BIGOT – “a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance”

Having a different viewpoint doesn’t make you a bigot and hatemonger, but spreading lies and slenderizing entire groups of people, condemning people groups of any kind, abusing them, harming them, banning their very nature, and barring them from certain rights that ALL HUMAN BEINGS should have DOES make you one!

One can hold their own beliefs without FORCING said beliefs on others… when you do this, yes, you DO become a bigot and hatemonger!